Not Fair

Discussion (6)

  1. Sheldon

    Gaining a license or certification may not mean much at your present firm; the real value comes when you’re looking for a new job, when it may be a prerequisite. Even if it isn’t required, it makes you more valuable than the person without it.

  2. tldaia

    The only time I made a significant upward change in salary was when I changed jobs.

  3. George Everding

    I got my license, and a cut in pay. We had been working overtime on a huge project with no additional pay because “you are all professionals – you work on salary.” Project ended, boss said “I know you all complained about all the overtime, and I have reconsidered, it is unfair. From now on you are all hourly- you’ll be paid for every hour you work.” Two weeks later, he cut us back to a 30 hour week because the workload was down.

    About a half dozen of us had passed the ARE during this time. Within six months, all of us had left the firm. This was in 1979 – sad to hear things haven’t changed much.

  4. Minniemutt

    Maybe his buddy works hard and does not whine about getting registered all the time…
    Also, when you become registered do you suddenly become more valuable to the company? Are you suddenly able to bring in (more) clients and make the company more money?

  5. ryan

    Yes, license make your more valuable to your firm because they are able to market the number of licensed professionals in their firm thus allowing them to charge a client(s) more fee for your time.

  6. Clemen1970

    @ryan: No. License may make an architect feel like he’s more valuable to a firm, but if the firm is headed by a licensed architech (as they all do), it is the principal of the firm or the leader of a particular studio within the firm (iin larger ones) who certifies the construction drawings, not the project architect. An RA will NOT be more valuable to a firm just because he holds a license; if his/her license is not needed, it will drive up expenses and force the firm to hike up their professional fees (could even make the firm uncompetitive and unprofitable). Many (if not all) large firms keep tabs on the amount of licensed architects they have other than the principals, or will simply not hire any additional RAs at all.

    Now, the reason why we architects should look into licensing is niot becasue of professional added-value. It is because we need to be RAs in order to be able to get our own gigs. The problem is that setting up their own firms is not an option for many architects today, specially in times like these when we are on the lower end of our possible salary spectrum, or even unemployed altogether. NOT being an RA, in this day and age, is more profitable to an architect than beign one, believe me ;)