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  1. Wild at Heart

    What is more frustrating is that I never had a client question my engineer’s fees while mine got questioned all of the time.

  2. Joearch

    There are many, many engineers out there.

  3. Business

    Simple. Don’t use them….be straight and tell them why.

  4. Fat Bob

    I have produced 183 drawings for my latest project. The structural engineer has produced 14 and the M & E engineer 10. The M & E engineer has yet to visit site and once he has spent his fee he won’t do any more work.
    I’m in the wrong business…

  5. Tim D

    @Fat Bob – It looks like we are using the same M & E.

  6. Central Standard

    A. If you KNOW a project they did has more relevance projects, then include it in your list.

    B. If you THINK another project they did could be relevant, ask them to give you more information on that project call them and ask about it before you send out the RFP.

    Personally, I always call them to give them to give them a heads up one is coming and to let them know when I need it back.

    If they say use the same list, use the same list and let it go.

    • Joearch

      as the architect in this situation, our over riding concern is getting the job, and if we need that level of info from the engineer, chances are it’s a competitive procurement. If an engineer does not share the same concern. There are always engineers looking to work architects, and will provide the info.
      I realize effort put into a proposal is a business decision on the part of the engineer, and if the engineer feels to added effort is not worth it to them, I can respect that, but they should also respect my need to get my proposal into the qualified pile.

  7. gonk

    Maybe you should try some other engineers. We spend a lot of time pulling together proposals for architects, including developing fee estimates that are as realistic as possible, pulling together lists of jobs, and tweaking staff resumes to suit the project – often with very little time because the architect didn’t call us until it was almost time to turn the proposal in.

    As for the M&E engineer who quits working on a project once he runs out of fee, the same statement holds true. There are other engineers out there, and we don’t all operate that way. As my dad used to tell his students, the first time you do something wrong, it is a learning opportunity. The second time you do the same thing wrong (like re-hiring a consultant you can’t rely on), THEN it becomes a mistake.